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What is your favorite hexgram? and why?

Dustin — Thu, 11 Jan 2007 23:38:22 GMT

It sheds alot of light on certain hexagrams... when you hear what others see in them and why it's their favorite.

Mine is hexgram 50...the cauldron...I love the ting... in ancient China many of them have psilocybe mushrooms on the top!!! A ceremonial offering vessel.

It just speaks to that idea of keeping yourself centred and ready to receive fate, and assigning the right amount of focus to both. (from the image)

Whats yours?

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what is natural

Randy_W — Wed, 23 Apr 2008 04:12:39 GMT

Hello every body,

I was asking my better friend what I should do about my female friend asking me to cosign
for her car.
My better friend is The I Ching;
The reply was
three coins tossed six times, first line = yin non moving [heads (2) tails, (3) & tails (3)]
the whole hex was 28, Great weight with fifth and sixth lines moving.

With the fifth and sixth lines moving in the primary hexagram; when I construct the
secondary hex it transforms to a 50 or Ting [ the Cauldraun ]

the nuclear would be the Creative , number one.

The primary and secondary IMHO indicate that co-signing would be bad, but
the nuclear is an odd one for such a question because it says
****
Persevere, and use creative effort within the Laws of Nature in order to succeed. Good Fortune is indicated if you do!

****

What is natural?
Now should I run across this again in another casting, how am I to render that
meaning into sensible mindfulness, attention and action?

and what are your thoughts on ponying up one's credit rating for a friend to have
a car =sol means of keeping work money coming in?

Thank you all for your input,
You are a great group.

Randy
******

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coin method

distroyers — Fri, 08 Feb 2008 07:52:54 GMT

anyone use this method? I just got my i ching not too long ago.. But I've yet to use it

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Ba Gua Zhang and the I ching

Ms. Y aka Tushita aka Maoli aka Eve-On — Wed, 09 Apr 2008 19:18:22 GMT

Ba Gua is a marshall art based on the I Ching. Part of the basis for this art is the 8 palm positions (8x8=64).
Having studied this art for a year plus in practice curious..
Does anyone know more...
Thank you
Tushita

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New to the tribe...yarrow stick?

tarot_readings_by_jeannie_san_francisco — Fri, 29 Feb 2008 19:18:22 GMT

Hello,

I love reading the I Ching, and would like to take it to a deeper level and read with the yarrow sticks. Does anyone have a step by step method for doing this, or even better a video showing and explaining. I've looked around on the web, and the instuctions aren't clear to me.

Thank you so much.

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Music of the Trigrams

MammyTammy — Wed, 27 Feb 2008 01:28:49 GMT

Check out the chart I made equating the trigrams with 4-note musical chords. You can find it on my Blog.
Mammy Tammy

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I Ching calendar

MammyTammy — Sat, 04 Nov 2006 07:30:41 GMT

The 64 hexagrams of the I Ching are associated with specific dates in the Chinese calendar. So, in certain readings, the dates connected to the response hexagrams could be the most important information obtained from casting the change.
Four of the hexagrams cover a 3 month period and the rest apply to 5 or 6 days of the lunar year depending on the month, since some have 29 days and others have 30.
Each year at Chinese New Year, I prepare my I Ching calendar so that I know which hexagrams aplly to which days. I've gotten feedback from clients telling me that the dates I gave them when I interpreted their changes for them were right on. In some cases, you can phrase your query so as to ask the "when" question and get an answer about the timing of the next changes in a specific domain. I could post the master chart online if there is interest.

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Chinese Language Help

Joseph — Mon, 21 Jan 2008 16:42:41 GMT

Greetings all.
In preparation for the future, I would like to study Mandarin in a group.
Any ideas, or are there a few here that would like to meet once, twice, three times a week?
I have many resources, but there is no substitute for personal interaction.
Thanks for your time. Peace, be well.

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good book

jason — Tue, 01 Jan 2008 13:58:18 GMT

http://www.amazon.com/Tao-I-Ching-Way-Divination/dp/0804814236/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1199195819&sr=8-1

This one is most useful for me, and the intro teaches how to divine really well

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New to the tribe and have a question

Dantien — Sun, 18 Mar 2007 05:10:35 GMT

In regard to line 3 in hexagram 48 & 50, the lines read similarly. Can anyone elucidate the differences? I have been getting both for a while now and would like more clarity.Thanks Jo

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Dear friends of the Yi: peer teaching wanted

franklin — Sat, 24 Nov 2007 17:56:45 GMT

Hello dear friends of the Yi

We find ourselves together in this council because we all have one thing in common: love for the YI ans using it for divining

I think we should use this network to share more what we all know and don't know about it. Almost everybody of us works on views, about the book and ourselves.

So I would like to set up a certain routine where we work on 2 things:

- you post one of your own 'prophesies' , give an overview of the situation around and make a round up of your interpretation. You also say where you feel something is missing.

Now the other people throw in their stories, remarks, additional views, etc.

- Parallel with the first item we work on some important themes as such, let's call them the central 'metaphors' . Exemples: the weather, the 4 directions, the river, the body, horse and animals, ...

every body brings in his ideas and experiences as valid info. We mix up, make new synthesis-s and can see further as a result.

I think there is only one condition for this to work: tribesmen and woman are to be sincere. This is: only talking as themselves, as a tribemember. No ego-stuff, no instant enlightment, no mutual 'teaching up' and certainly: no juggling about around it (we're only about it) . Everything more or less to the point. We find ourselves together in this corner of the internet because we share the same interest and we want to know more..

We all know how beatiful, mysteriously beautiful, complex, kind and confusing the Yi is. And walking life alongside with it, you cannot but wonder who this strange friend is.

This is my issue.

Hope getting some news soon!

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just now pearing into the depths of the i ching, help?

Quaisar — Wed, 14 Nov 2007 16:30:06 GMT

Hi lovely people! First I must say, that I picked up a copy of the translation of the I Ching first translated by Richard Wilhelm from chinese to german, then translated again by Carl Baynes. I do plan on picking up that other translation, but for now, this is what I'm going to be studying.

It's given little explanation to something in the very beginning, that i have to understand in order to continue on. Such as this:

"Nine in the second place means:
Dragon appearing in the field.
It furthers one to see the great man."

or

"Six in the second place means:
Bites through tender meat,
So that his nose disappears.
No blame."

So, what does it mean by "Nine in the third place" or "Nine in the fourth place", etc...? Where do the 9 and 6 come from? It's given me no good explanation as to what that means, or how to interpret it (so far at least).

Please, someone help me out with this. Give me some pointers, tips, whatever. I am determined to apprehend all of this (as much as possible), so please help me understand, so that I may continue on.

Thank you so much!

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The Hip-Hop Bard's I-Ching

KnowledgeisPower23 — Fri, 06 Jul 2007 08:50:14 GMT

Any advice or criticism will be gratefully appreciated

http://tribes.tribe.net/thcsociety/thread/f3ea1535-2150-4259-af17-d28445032d71#1c5d8c8c-be26-49fd-9c52-f57a62262cbd

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Giving someone else a reading??

MorganLance — Thu, 01 Feb 2007 08:44:21 GMT

Hello ya'll.......I've been using the I-Ching a fair amount over the last year or two. From the very first consultation, the answers have been very clear and have turned out to be amazingly accurate (sometimes in very surprising ways).

For me, it's always been a personal thing. I ask questions that are important to me, and I interpret the oracle's response.

My question is, how does this work when giving a reading for someone else? Do they have to interpret their own response? I haven't really tried this yet, so maybe it will all just work out......but if anyone has some advice on this, please illuminate me :-)

~morgan

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University of I Ching...?

Dustin — Wed, 20 Dec 2006 20:17:42 GMT

I have always wondered if there are any accredited universities that have the I ching as a program?

I live in canada

Anybody out there heard of programs?????

Blessings...new Moon, Solstice Tomorrow!! yes

Dustin

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Seeking understanding of different hexagrams in a casting

Randy_W — Sat, 17 Feb 2007 21:48:58 GMT

I do the method of casting three coins (yes modern method I am)
and doing this six times providing six lines some static, some moving. I
count this the *primary* hexagram.
I then convert the moving lines to their opposites, yin to yang, yang to yin.
Which this gives me my secondary hexagram.
Returining to the primary hexagram I take the second, third and fourth lines,
using them to make the first, second and third lines of my nuclear hexagram.
I take the third, fourth and fifth lines in the primary to make the fourth, fifth and sixth
lines of my nuclear hexagram.
This builds my nuclear with all six lines.
From book three I can then gather addition information to gain new insight for
the nuclear if this inslight is needed.

I do what to know if there is some sense of whether the secondary and nuclear connote
the inner meaning of the situation or hidden factors or a potentiality. How am I to read these other hexagrams in perspective to the primary?

Victor
..........,

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"The Secret?"

selphmade — Mon, 06 Nov 2006 02:41:41 GMT

As a presumed "taoist", I've had a mixed experience with this film. If you read the thread I'm linking to, you'll see how it's related to the I Ching.

http://tribes.tribe.net/izo/thread/b0a64276-58c1-403e-8262-3ddb54a62677

I'd like to get some feedback from you who are also in relationship with the I Ching.

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Carol K. Anthony

elvinwheel — Tue, 07 Feb 2006 00:30:06 GMT

New to this tribe, do any others here use Carol K. Anthony's "A Guide to the I Ching" for questioning the oracle? I have been consulting with this manual and find her interpretation helpful.

Dave

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12 Strands of DNA (which relates to the 64 Hexagrams) and how they react to sound and language

KnowledgeisPower23 — Fri, 13 Oct 2006 10:18:30 GMT

http://tribes.tribe.net/thcsociety/thread/05fd53d8-3b0d-4b5f-b401-ff9675bf883c#82fb876c-08e0-4fb0-a8e5-bc78c25494a4

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where is everyone?

dhaliamia — Sun, 03 Sep 2006 04:01:17 GMT

i have been a student of the iching for many years and would very much to chat with others out there. i've created an iching tribe if anyone is interested.

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star nations / terrestrial beings... can someone help me with my interpretation

dhaliamia — Tue, 22 Aug 2006 00:47:18 GMT

I've been researching the star nations and terrestrial beings. i'm not sure where i stand on this issue. earlier today i consulted the iching for it's position on this matter. i asked to be guided in knowledge as to whether these beings / nations were here to help us or to hurt us. I would very much like to hear other's views & opinions on this matter.

this is the answer that I recieved:

64: 1,4,5. changes to 61. I follow the method of a teacher regarding the interpretation of multiple changing lines. We can talk about this if you like. So with 3 changing lines, I use the middle line, which is line 4. Line 4 reads as follows :

I've provided the interpretations from 2 different scholors . Wilhelm's and Legge

Wilhelm 64:4 Before Completion

Nine in the fourth place means:
Perseverance brings good fortune.
Remorse disappears.
Shock, thus to discipline the Devil's Country.
For three years, great realms are rewarded.

Now it is the time of struggle. The transition must be completed. We must
make ourselves strong in resolution; this brings good fortune. All
misgivings that might arise in such grave times of struggle must be silenced.
It is a question of a fierce battle to break and to discipline the Devil's
Country, the forces of decadence. But the struggle also has its reward. Now is
the time to lay the foundations of power and mastery for the future.

Legge
The fourth NINE, undivided, shows its subject by firm correctness obtaining good fortune, so that all occasion for repentance disappears. Let him stir himself up, as if he were invading the Demon region, where for three years rewards will come to him (and his troops) from the great kingdom.

______________

this hexagram changes to 61 inner truth:

Welhelm's
Wind stirs water by penetrating it. Thus the superior man, when obliged to
judge the mistakes of men, tries to penetrate their minds with understanding,
in order to gain a sympathetic appreciation of the circumstances. In ancient
China, the entire administration of justice was guided by this principle. A
deep understanding that knows how to pardon was considered the highest
form of justice. This system was not without success, for its aim was to make
so strong a moral impression that there was no reason to fear abuse of such
mildness. For it sprang not from weakness but from a superior clarity.

Legge
the name of this hexagram, may be represented in English by 'Inmost Sincerity.' It denotes the highest quality of man, and gives its possessor power so that he prevails with spiritual beings, with other men, and with the lower creatures. It is the p. 201 subject of the 'Doctrine of the Mean' from the 21st chapter onwards, where Remusat rendered it by 'la perfection,' 'la perfection morale,' and Intorcetta and his coadjutors by 'vera solidaque perfectio.' The lineal figure has suggested to the Chinese commentators, from the author of the first Appendix, two ideas in it which deserve to be pointed out. There are two divided lines in the centre and two undivided below them and above them. The divided lines in the centre are held to represent the heart or mind free from all pre-occupation, without any consciousness of self; and the undivided lines, on each side of it, in the centre of the constituent trigrams are held to denote the solidity of the virtue of one so free from selfishness. There is no unreality in it, not a single flaw.

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ok, i decided to ask for additional insight Again, I asked for more clarity in "their" intentions towards us.

I received 51:2,5. Shock, which changes to 58 Joy. In keeping with my method of interpretation, I am reading changing line 5, which reads as follows:

Wilhelm:
Six in the fifth place means:
Shock goes hither and thither.
Danger.
However, nothing at all is lost.
Yet there are things to be done.

This is a case not of a single shock but of repeated shocks with no breathing
space between. Nonetheless, the shock causes no loss, because one takes care
to stay in the center of movement and in this way to be spared the fate of
being helplessly tossed hither and thither.

Legge
The fifth SIX, divided, shows its subject going and coming amidst the startling movements (of the time), and always in peril; but perhaps he will not incur loss, and find business (which he can accomplish).

which changes to 58 Joy

Wilhelm
The joyous mood is infectious and therefore brings success. But joy must be
based on steadfastness if it is not to degenerate into uncontrolled mirth.
Truth and strength must dwell in the heart, while gentleness reveals itself in
social intercourse. In this way one assumes the right attitude toward God and
man and achieves something. Under certain conditions, intimidation
without gentleness may achieve something momentarily, but not for all
time. When, on the other hand, the hearts of men are won by friendliness,
they are led to take all hardships upon themselves willingly, and if need be
will not shun death itself, so great is the power of joy over men.

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Organic Fellowships

Tue, 15 Aug 2006 16:44:58 GMT

The other day I was at a coffee shop pondering life and the i-ching. Suddenly I found myself surrounded by people that were obviously from different organic fellowships than I. In other words people I do not exactly relate to, or people that have life-styles different than my own. I began thinking about hex 8, a specific line in the judgement which reads, "If a Man has recognized the neccessity for union and does not feel strong enough to act as its center, it is his duty to become a member of some other organic fellowship."

A perfect opportunity manifested itself for me to be friendly and engage in conversation. I added a comment to their conversation and laughter. No one in the group responded or even acknowledged that I said anything. I laughed to myself having just been thinking about the above quote. A few minutes passed, I got up and left, a short time later I bumped into a circle of friends that I hadn't seen for awhile. I knew then how fortuitous it can be to follow the flow of the i-ching.

I love it when that happens.

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Either-Or Questions

tigertiger — Tue, 08 Aug 2006 13:15:25 GMT

How do you phrase a question when you are in an either--or situation? I am at crossroads and wanting to clarify my intentions, and try to see how beneficial certain choices (if I make one or the other) would be in the long run. It's a big question..how to pare it down?

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Hilary Barrett

susan — Thu, 06 Jul 2006 00:39:46 GMT

I just ran across her web page and newsletter. Does anyone have any experience with her? What do you think of her work with the I Ching?

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Transformative Experience

tolteclogic — Tue, 11 Jul 2006 21:04:19 GMT

Someone in some other tribe asked a question about the
I-Ching as it relates to the shamanic use of psychodelics
this was my reply...

More than an oracle you might wish to explore more deeply
the true meaning of the I-Ching. Transformative experience
is all well and good but unless you are grounded with both
feet within each world, that of your preconditioned mentality
and your true celestial potentiality, one day you may wake
up to discover many years have gone by to far down the
absolutely wrong path.

According to Thomas Cleary in the study of the I-Ching,
"Pure yin refers to the mortal, earth-bound material
dross, which must eventually obey the laws of matter.
Pure yang refers to pure unbound consciousness;
held to partake of the nature of infinity, this is repre-
sented as spiritual immortality. Pure yang may be used
to allude to a peak experience, after which there is a
reintergration of this enlightenment into life in the
world, again balancing yang with yin."

"Nuances of yin and yang qualities, their interactions,
and their effects on human life, are the subject of the
I-Ching. Overall, Taoism uses the idea of balanced
integration of yin and yang in the sense of fulfillment
of the complete or whole human potential, living in the
world and fulfilling worldly tasks, yet maintaining con-
tact with a greater dimension, refered to as
'celestial,' ... using things of the world to practice the
principles of the Tao, using human affairs to cultivate
celestial qualities."

~*~*~*~*~

"Understanding stillness and resting the appropriate
place, stabilizing illumination so that its clarity is not
clouded, using clarity and stillness according to the
time - herein lies the work of hidden cultivation and
secret practice."

The Taoist I-Ching

However, none of this is likely to happen or last for very long
without serious practice.

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The Enoch Spider-Crow Sirius Download

KnowledgeisPower23 — Thu, 06 Jul 2006 16:11:24 GMT

http://people.tribe.net/knowledgeispower23/blog/3eaff5c3-82f4-4cea-980d-39c662b803d8

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Wanting your thoughts.

Randy_W — Tue, 11 Apr 2006 01:50:41 GMT

Metta, Namaste. All that good stuff.

I have a situation that I would like some clarification on. If you would, could you please use this question and casting to explain how the different hexagrams positioins are used in inter-play?

I would appreciate it, it would be a practical lesson of applying commentaries I have read.

= = =
Q: What would be the results for the next ten months if I make only a little effort toward
finding a different job or different employment?

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Primary: 38/ nine in the second place.

Secondary: 21/

Nuclear: 63/

Primary:
38. K'uei / Opposition

above LI THE CLINGING, FLAME
below TUI THE JOYOUS, LAKE

This hexagram is composed of the trigram Li above, i.e., flame, which burns upward, and Tui below, i.e., the lake, which seeps downward. These two movements are indirect contrast. Furthermore, LI is the second daughter and Tui the youngest daughter, and although they live in the same house they belong to different men; hence their wills are not the same but are divergently directed.

THE JUDGMENT

OPPOSITION. In small matters, good fortune.

When people live in opposition and estrangement they cannot carry out a great undertaking in common; their points of view diverge too widely. In such circumstances one should above all not proceed brusquely, for that would only increase the existing opposition; instead, one should limit oneself to producing gradual effects in small matters. Here success can still be expected, because the situation is such that the opposition does not preclude all agreement. In general, opposition appears as an obstruction, but when it represents polarity within a comprehensive whole, it has also its useful and important functions. The oppositions of heaven and earth, spirit and nature, man and woman, when reconciled, bring about the creation and reproduction of life. In the world of visible things, the principle of opposites makes possible the differentiation by categories through which order is brought into the world.

THE IMAGE.

Above, fire; below. The lake.

The image of OPPOSITION.

Thus amid all fellowship

The superior man retains his individuality.

The two elements, fire and water, never mingle but even when in contact retain their own natures. So the sutured man is never led into baseness or vulgarity through intercourse or community of interests with persons of another sort; regardless of all commingling, he will always preserve his individuality.

THE LINES
Nine in the second place means:

One meets his lord in a narrow street.

No blame.

As a result of misunderstandings, it has become impossible for people who by nature belong together to meet in the correct way. This being so, an accidental meeting under informal circumstances may serve the purpose, provided there is an inner affinity between them.

- - - - - -- - - - -- - - - -- -
SECONDARY:
21. Shih Ho / Biting Through

above LI THE CLINGING, FIRE
below CHêN THE AROUSING, THUNDER

This hexagram represents an open mouth (cf. hexagram

27 with an obstruction (in the fourth place) between the teeth. As a result the lips cannot meet. To bring them together one must bite energetically through the obstacle. Since the hexagram is made up of the trigrams for thunder and for lightning, it indicates how obstacles are forcibly removed in nature.
Energetic biting through overcomes the obstacle that prevents joining of the lips; the storm with its thunder and lightning overcomes the disturbing tension in nature. Recourse to law and penalties overcomes the disturbances of harmonious social life caused by criminals and slanderers. The theme of this hexagram is a criminal lawsuit, in contradistinction to that of Sung, CONFLICT

6, which refers to civil suits.

THE JUDGMENT

BITING THROUGH has success.
It is favorable to let justice be administered.

When an obstacle to union arises, energetic biting through brings success. This is true in all situations. Whenever unity cannot be established, the obstruction is due to a talebearer and traitor who is interfering and blocking the way. To prevent permanent injury, vigorous measures must be taken at once. Deliberate obstruction of this sort does not vanish of its own accord. Judgment and punishment are required to deter or obviate it. However, it is important to proceed in the right way. The hexagram combines Li, clarity, and Chên, excitement. Li is yielding, Chên is hard. Unqualified hardness and excitement would be too violent in meting out punishment; unqualified clarity and gentleness would be too weak. The two together create the just measure. It is of moment that the man who makes the decisions (represented by the fifth line) is gentle by nature, while he commands respect by his conduct in his position.

THE IMAGE

Thunder and lighting:
The image of BITING THROUGH.
Thus the kings of former times made firm the laws
Through clearly defined penalties.

Penalties are the individual applications of the law. The lawsspecify the penalties. Clarity prevails when mild and severepenalties are differentiated, according to the nature of the crimes.This is symbolized by the clarity of lighting. The law is strengthenedby a just application of penalties. This is symbolized by the terrorof thunder. This clarity and severity have the effect of instillingrespect; it is not that the penalties are ends in themselves.The obstructions in the social life of man increase when there is alack of clarity in the penal codes and slackness in executing them.The only to strengthen the law is to make it clear and make penaltiescertain and swift.

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NUCLEAR:
63. Chi Chi / After Completion

above K'AN THE ABYSMAL, WATER
below LI THE CLINGING, FIRE

This hexagram is the evolution of T'ai PEACE

11. The transition from confusion to order is completed, and everything is in its proper place even in particulars. The strong lines are in the strong places, the weak lines in the weak places. This is a very favorable outlook, yet it gives reason for thought. For it is just when perfect equilibrium has been reached that any movement may cause order to revert to disorder. The one strong line that has moved to the top, thus effecting complete order in details, is followed by the other lines. Each moving according to its nature, and thus suddenly there arises again the hexagram P'i, STANDSTILL

12. Hence the present hexagram indicates the conditions of a time of climax, which necessitate the utmost caution.

THE JUDGMENT

AFTER COMPLETION. Success in small matters.
Perseverance furthers.
At the beginning good fortune.
At the end disorder.

The transition from the old to the new time is already accomplished. In principle, everything stands systematized, and it si only in regard to details that success is still to be achieved. In respect to this, however, we must be careful to maintain the right attitude. Everything proceeds as if of its own accord, and this can all too easily tempt us to relax and let thing take their course without troubling over details. Such indifference is the root of all evil. Symptoms of decay are bound to be the result. Here we have the rule indicating the usual course of history. But this rule is not an inescapable law. He who understands it is in position to avoid its effects by dint of unremitting perseverance and caution.

THE IMAGE

Water over fire: the image of the condition
In AFTER COMPLETION.

Thus the superior man

Takes thought of misfortune
And arms himself against it in advance.

When water in a kettle hangs over fire, the two elements stand in relation and thus generate energy (cf. the production of steam). But the resulting tension demands caution. If the water boils over, the fire is extinguished an its energy is lost. If the heat is too great, the water evaporates into the air. These elements here brought in to relation and thus generating energy are by nature hostile to each other. Only the most extreme caution can prevent damage. In life too there are junctures when all forces are in balance and work in harmony, so that everything seems to be in the best of order. In such times only the sage recognizes the moments that bode danger and knows how to banish it by means of timely precautions.

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Victor
,.,.,.,.,.,.,.

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Anyone keep a journal?

Mon, 08 May 2006 18:57:47 GMT

anyone keep a journal of I Ching.....

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Question about hexagrams It better to do 1 hexagram or do 6?

Tue, 09 May 2006 14:29:32 GMT

Hi ,
I read so many different schools of thought Is it best to cast 1 hexgram changing gram or 6 as stated in Carol Anthony book--Thanks

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Wengu

selphmade — Tue, 09 May 2006 19:00:25 GMT

http://people.tribe.net/selphmade/blog/96b1f1d5-9868-4cf4-a964-12e57b55813d

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Any I Ching events?

Mon, 08 May 2006 18:57:00 GMT

Any I Ching events in near future----lectures,meeting etc?

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Recommended Translations?

elestial1 — Tue, 08 Nov 2005 18:31:16 GMT

Good morning,

Pretty new to this tribe and not so active, but figured this would be a good source for the question I have. I recently threw hexagram 35 and sought out a few different sources to shed light on the meaning. Wouldn't you know that they were pretty drastically different in their interpretation?

SO, does anyone have a source that they prefer? I am familiar with the more well known translators, but I'm just wondering what works for y'all. Additionally, if anyone has anyone knowledge of said hexagram that they'd like to throw out there, I'd be into it. Many thanks!

namaste,
lk

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Hi , Iam a new member

Mon, 01 May 2006 16:01:35 GMT

I fell into the I Ching and I havent looked back....I find thA I Ching helps me alot----
Discovered by a book called ask the oracle and I have been really scouring the internet and book stores to learn more.....

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surfaces and coins

jmparker — Fri, 10 Feb 2006 10:24:02 GMT

Ok, this is another dumb question, but I just want to know what other people do...

Surfaces:
I moved into a new place where the floors are uneven. My coins go all over the place, roll, and usually end up hitting walls to stop. Anybody do theirs on a carpet?

Coins:
I used to have 3 2-euro coins I swore by... gave them up when I moved, and for some reason Turkish lira coins just don't fall the same. I like to use the biggest coins possible, seems to work better for me... anybody else have this hang-up?
What coins do you use?

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Serious 41

Mon, 09 Jan 2006 14:08:52 GMT

I have a serious letter to compose. A last wish from an old friend. I have been thinking of this constantly for the past several years. My thoughts were enthusiastic about attempting the letter. But now 41 has brought me down. I'm just following though, I rarely get hex 41. Help!

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business card

Devin — Thu, 04 Aug 2005 15:17:19 GMT

I just set up my business card for my polarity therapy practice. I put the hexagram dispersion (wind over water) to symbolize energetic healing.
Using gentleness and penetration (using awareness to feel into where you can't physically touch) to break up what is dammed inside (represented by water).
has anyone else used a hexagram as a logo for anything? To describe anything?

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#51

elestial1 — Tue, 14 Mar 2006 01:25:17 GMT

Hello all,

I recently consulted the oracle about a specific situation (whereas I'm usually seeking general guidance) and was answered with 51, lines 4 & 5 moving. It did not seem to be even remotely relevant, by at least one account. The part I'm most confused about is the mention of natural catatstrophes b/c I asked whether to move forward with a new relation or not. The only thing I can pull out of it so far is that my attitude must change. Any thoughts or am i being way too vague here?

...in lak'ech...

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hexagram 64 and olympic snowboarding

venicevagabond — Thu, 23 Feb 2006 19:57:30 GMT

Sounds like one of the US snowboard team members could have heeded well the advice of #64... for those that don't know, she was well in the lead ready for the gold and on the last jump, showboated a bit, wiped out allowing anothe snowboarder to sneak past her for the gold... she got her tail wet...

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Old yin and old yang

Nightwind — Fri, 20 Jan 2006 02:18:35 GMT

I am not understanding these.

"An old yin turns into a normal yang. And old yang turns into a normail yin"

Does this mean that they are the opposite, or almost the opposite?

Why is this?

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Nourishment

Randy_W — Wed, 15 Mar 2006 02:55:28 GMT

27; corners of the mouth.
The image.
At the foot of the mountain, thunder:
The image of PROVIDING NOURISHMENT.
Thus the superior man is careful of his words.
And temperate in eating and drinking.

“God comes forth in the sign of the arousing” : when in the spring the life forces stir again, all things come into being anew. “ He brings to perfection in the sign of Keeping still”: thus in the early spring, when the seeds fall to earth, all things are made ready. This is an image of providing nourishment through movement and tranquility. The superior man takes it as a pattern for the nourishment and cultivation of his character. Words are a movement going form within outward, Eating and drinking are movements going from without inward.
Both kinds of movement can be modified by tranquility. For tranquility keeps the words that come out of the mouth from exceeding proper measure, and keeps the foo that goes into the mouth from exceeding its proper measure. Thus character is cultivated.

THE LINES
Nine at the beginning means:
You let your magic tortoise go,
And look at me with the corners of your mouth drooping.
Misfortune.

The magic tortoise is a creature possessed of such supernatural powers that it lives on air and needs no earthly nourishment. The image means that a man fitted by nature and position to live freely and independently renounces this self-reliance and instead looks with envy and discontent at others who are outwardly in better circumstances. But such base envy only arouses derision and contempt in those others. This has bad results.

Six in the second place means;
Turning to the summit for nourishment ,
Deviating from the path
To seek nourishment from the hill.
Continuing to do this brings misfortune.

Normally a person either provides his own means of nourishment or is supported in a proper way by those whose duty and privilege it is to provide for him. If , owning to weakness of spirit, a man cannot support himself, a feeling of uneasiness comes over him; this is because in shirking the proper way of obtaining a living, he accepts support as a favor from those in higher place. This is unworthy, for he is deviating form his true nature. Kept up indefinitely, this course leads to misfortune.

Six in the third place means:
Turning away from nourishment. Perseverance brings misfortune.
Do not act thus for ten years.
Nothing serves to further.

He who seeks nourishment that does not nourish reels from desire to gratification and in gratification craves desire. Mad pursuit of pleasure for the satisfaction of the senses never brings one to the goal.
One should never (not years is a complete cycle of time) follow this path, for nothing good can come of it.

Six in the fourth place means:
Turning to the summit
For provision of nourishment
Brings good fortune.
Spying about with sharp eyes
Like a tiger with insatiable craving.
No blame.

In contrast to the six in the second place, which refers to a man bent exclusively on his own advantage, this line refers to one occupying a high position and striving to let his light shine forth. To do this he needs helpers, because he cannot attain his lofty aim alone. With the greed of a hungry tiger he is on the lookout for the right people. Since he is not working for himself but for the good of all, there is no wrong in such zeal.

Six in the fifth place means:
Turing away form the path.
To remain persevering brings good fortune.
One should not cross the great water.

A man may be conscious of a deficiency in himself. He should be undertaking the nourishment of the people, but he has not the strength to do it. Thus he must turn form his accustomed path and beg counsel and help from a man who is spiritually his superior but undistinguished outwardly. If he maintains this attitude of mind perseveringly, success and good fortune are his . but he must remain aware of his dependence. He must not put his own person forward nor attempt great labors, such as crossing the great water.

Nine at the top means:
The source of nourishment.
Awareness of danger brings good fortune.
If furthers one to cross the great water.

This describes a sage of the highest order , from whom emanate all influences that provide nourishment for others. Such a position brings with it heavy responsibility. If he remains conscious of this fact, he has good fortune and may confidently undertake even great and difficult labors, such as crossing the great water. These undertakings bring general happiness for him and for all others.

I received this over a year ago when asking if "is it fortuitious for me to invite Jenni out on a date?"
Corners of the mouth seemed to tell me that - a dinner would be very nice, Thank you.-

I thought it was sort of comical that it would do it with this hexagram .
It was after I looked very carefully at the meaning that I realized that _Nourishment_ can be taken as a strong yes, or a strong -no-. It is actually advice to look at the situation and ask if you are -feeding- the right parts of yourself, and if you are feeding the important parts of others.
It is advice to look and see if you Nourish each other in the ways that are most important to each of you.

Interesting, to get a hexagram to tell me, "decide for yourself, to you mutually *suit* each other?" and I could have read it a totally different way.

Victor
.........

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oracle

elvinwheel — Sun, 12 Mar 2006 04:20:13 GMT

It seems that there is no spirit, is that true?

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I Ching Radio

elvinwheel — Fri, 17 Feb 2006 17:35:02 GMT

Yesterday ( Feb 16) I heard an interesting discussion with Stephen Karcher, Author of the "Total I Ching" and Caroline Casey, host of the visionary activist show. Here is the link to hear the show: http://www.visionaryactivism.com/radioshow.htm.

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Where does the Yin Yang Symbol come from?

Athos — Sun, 08 Jan 2006 06:58:30 GMT

Hello everyone!

this is interesting

http://www.chinesefortunecalendar.com/yinyang.htm

Take care

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Family troubles

Devin — Tue, 29 Nov 2005 20:57:38 GMT

I've hit a block lately with the I Ching. All the stuff about family just does not make sense to me. Whenever it talks about "the youngest daughter being subortinate" or something, it loses me. Yes, I know it's supposed to be looked at as metaphor. Yin, yang, higher and lower positions and all that. Even the hexagram the family (forget the number, it's wind over fire) seems obscure as a modern westerner trying to understand a situation through the metaphor of an ancient chinese partriachal system.
Does anyone have any ideas for decoding these relationships that the hexagrams have? I'm sure that the relationship remains the same, even if a different metaphor is used, I just haven't figured one out.
Or maybe a version (I use wilhelm) that has a little bit more modern and/or western jargon.

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advice from the council please, Hex 44

psytrancedancer — Mon, 19 Dec 2005 21:02:08 GMT

hello :)

I have very little experiece with the I Ching, but when in doubt a few days ago I asked if an old lover should visit me...I got Hex 44. To me, it doesn't seem positive and has made me rethink this choice...can I get some clarity on your interpretation of 44?

My friend, with much experience with the I Ching (but also with investment in in the outcome) says it's a great sign to wait and all will be very well.

I see this (and also feel this) very differently.

Anyone have any insight?

Thanks so much!

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i-ching and license plates

Wed, 19 Oct 2005 05:59:32 GMT

This may sound a bit crazy but....have you ever been driving down the freeway or on a cross country trip, you have this one thought that you just can't get out of your head......then wam!! A car drives past you with a license plate that catches your eye and makes sense to you. This happens to me all the time.....we are in a world surrounded by numbers, I am glad I can make alternate sense of it all through the i ching....J

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Pardon me brother, do you have the time

Randy_W — Sun, 27 Nov 2005 15:25:21 GMT

One question I forgot to ask last season. I used to do Tarot and there are ways to tell the question of when or time with cards. I know that the individual hexagrams relate to different quarters NE, North, NW, West, SW, South, South East, East. and each of these have times related to them.
Is there are easy way to get a bead in on when an event or
auspicious time will happen for the seeker/person asking the question?

. .. .. . . .
Sincerely
Victor

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what is the iching?

Sun, 20 Nov 2005 02:37:14 GMT

A friend in another tribe asked me what the iching was, I found it rather difficult to put into words on a single thread, in person would be another matter.....

What would you all type?

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4-25

Thu, 10 Nov 2005 15:43:16 GMT

I just cast the hex 4-25. I don't quite understand the changing lines, particularly the juxtopositioning between the rolls of student/teacher in youtfull folly.... any comments would be helpfull. Thanks Jason

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can't find the lines

Sat, 22 Oct 2005 04:20:34 GMT

Does anyone know which hex's have lines that refer to "divisive egotism?"

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(I Ching Oráculo Chamánico del Cambio, comentario a la línea uno, Hexagrama 17)

cosmogenesis21122012 — Fri, 28 Oct 2005 02:38:01 GMT

Esquina,

¿Hay Alguien Escuchando?

"El mundo está cambiando. Aquellos que tomen la iniciativa harán bien."

(I Ching Oráculo Chamánico del Cambio, comentario a la línea uno, Hexagrama 17)

Rinri, la palabra japonesa de la que este Boletín deriva su título, significa iluminación ética. A medida que nos acercamos al cierre del ciclo, la necesidad de una iluminación ética global nunca ha sido mayor, especialmente desde que entramos en el Sendero de Ejercer el Poder. La nación con más necesidad de tal iluminación es Estados Unidos, la nación más cubierta de tinieblas en la Tierra. Hola, Estados Unidos, ¿hay alguien escuchando? El 2012 está a la vuelta de la esquina. No es muy tarde para elegir el sendero del futuro, el sendero de las Trece Lunas, y abandonar su identidad como estadounidenses. Será bueno para el planeta, si pueden hacer eso.

“Estaremos entrando en la Era de Acuario el 11 de noviembre de 2012. Será un nuevo tiempo. La psique entera está cambiando. Debes purificar la mente, el cuerpo, y el alma, para ser real, inocente y sátvico (“Pureza, claridad, luz”). Elévate para ser angelical. Esta Era en la que todos ustedes servirán es una Era de la Conciencia, una Era de la Experiencia. La transición a esa Era comenzó en la Era de Piscis. El lema de Piscis era: “Quiero saber, necesito aprender.” El lema de Acuario es: “Yo sé. Quiero tener la experiencia.” (Yogi Bhajan, La Mente, sus Proyecciones y Facetas Múltiples, p. 27)

La nación más rica de la Tierra es la más cubierta de tinieblas, porque es la que más niega su pobreza, su consumo de energía (5% de la población mundial, 25% del consumo mundial de combustibles fósiles, y se resiste a firmar el protocolo de Kyoto), y su gigantismo militar - número 1 en presupuesto militar - y aun así se acobarda en el temor de terroristas fantasmas, y encadena a sus ciudadanos con pesadas medidas de seguridad. Estadounidenses, deben salir fuera de las sombras, e ir a la luz. Deben afrontar lo que le están haciendo como pueblo a este planeta. Deben querer saber la verdad que podrían aprender de nuevo.

“Todo el proceso natural de este planeta está a punto de entrar en caos, y cuando lo haga, miles de millones de nosotros vamos a morir, y las áreas más vulnerables son Estados Unidos, Europa y China, así que nosotros, los estadounidenses, no podemos sentarnos a esperar en la orilla mientras que el resto del mundo sufre por nuestros pecados. Cualquiera que no arda en deseos de hacer algo respecto al problema del calentamiento global está insano, y los líderes que no quieren enfrentarlo están justo ahora en el proceso de cometer el más grande crimen en contra de la humanidad que jamás haya conocido la historia … y ahí yace la generación de una catástrofe no diferente de la profetizada como el final de la era, de acuerdo con José Argüelles, por Pacal Votan, un gobernante maya del sexto siglo d.C.

“Estoy empezando a ver a mi alrededor evidencia de que la profecía de este hombre era correcta. … si las cosas siguen deteriorándose a la tasa actual, habrán dentro de pocos años desastres ambientales de una ferocidad sin precedentes, y me sorprendería si no estuviesen sobre nosotros para el 2012.” (“El 2012: ¿Es Cierto?, Whitley Streiber´s Journal, martes 11 de octubre de 2005.)

Esta Era está cambiando. Tuvimos la Era Industrial, luego la Revolución de la Información, y ahora estamos cruzando a la Era de Acuario. Está será la Era de la Conciencia. Estaremos sobrecargados de información, y nuestras psiques se volverán más sensibles. Será esencial para cada uno de nosotros conocer nuestra mente, y comandarla con nuestra mente meditacional. Sin el control de todas estas facetas, la mente sin dirección creará depresiones, desilusiones, quiebres de identidad, y un sentimiento profundo de vacío. Será nuestro deber, y un requerimiento fundamental de las vidas futuras, meditar y comandar la mente. (Yogi Bhajan, La Mente, p.9).

“Pueden enviarme a la universidad, pero no me pueden hacer pensar,” así dice una calcomanía en la defensa de un automóvil en el estacionamiento de un centro comercial. Los estadounidenses no sólo no quieren pensar, sino ningún otro pueblo de la Tierra está más sobrecargado de información. Un pueblo simplemente atontado y viviendo en el temor, adicto a la televisión de los reality shows y los deportes de las ligas mayores, gobernado por cristianos fundamentalistas, que harán la guerra en pro del derecho de sus ciudadanos a comprar. ¿Pero quién está realmente pensando acerca del mañana?

“Estaremos entrando en la Era de Acuario el 11 de noviembre de 2012. Será un nuevo tiempo … mucha gente no pasará de ese punto crucial. … entre ahora y esa fecha, aquellos que todavía sean Piscis (=12:60) apenas podrán sobrevivir. Pero después de ese tiempo, sólo Dios sabe.” (Yogi Bhajan, La Mente, p. 39)

“Es útil advertir,” escribe Lyubov Gordina, de la Asamblea Mundial Noosférica, “que los gobiernos gastan para propósitos militares 27 veces más fondos que para la preservación de la civilización del planeta.” Esto significa que los gobiernos de la Tierra están poniendo 27 veces más energía en medios de destrucción, que en medios de preservación. No se necesita mucha lógica para ver a dónde te llevará eso tarde que temprano. El puro presupuesto militar anual de Estados Unidos (300 mil millones de dólares) podría salvar el planeta, alimentar los pobres, y financiar la investigación y los métodos para empezar la conversión de combustible fósil a energía solar y eólica.

“La Era de Acuario. La siguiente en una sucesión de eras astrológicas, cada una con una duración aproximada de 2000 años. Completamente inaugurada en 2012, la Era de Acuario será testigo de un cambio radical en la conciencia, la210 sensibilidad humana, y la tecnología. El cambio central de esta nueva era enfatiza una sensibilidad incrementada y una evolución de nuestro poder de conciencia, y una nueva relación con nuestra mente.” (Yogi Bhajan, La Mente, p. 193)

No encontrarás mucha de esta sensibilidad en Estados Unidos. Justo después de la reelección de Bush, la Fundación para la Ley del Tiempo publicó un artículo de posición titulado “La Muerte de Estados Unidos, una Oportunidad para la Red de Arte Planetaria.” La Fundación hacía un llamado para el patrocinio y establecimiento de la Misión de Rescate de la Tierra, las Cocinas de Sopa de Comida Orgánica y Tiempo Natural, el Programa Educativo de Tiempo en las Prisiones, y los Centros para la Restitución de la Mente Natural. Una Misión de Rescate de la Tierra coordinaría organizaciones de caridad con equipos de personas para auxiliar a la gente y ayudar a reconstruir las áreas de desastres naturales, como unos Cuerpos de Paz para la Tierra. Las Cocinas de Sopa de Comida Orgánica y Tiempo Natural proporcionarían a los desamparados comida real y les enseñaría algo genuinamente nuevo, el calendario de Trece Lunas. Sólo los Centros para la Reconstitución de la Mente Natural suscitaron interés - en Suiza, Costa Rica, Brasil, el Reino Unido - pero no en Estados Unidos.

Es realmente cierto que Estados Unidos murió con la reelección de Bush. Los estadounidenses tienen poca cabeza para los asuntos que están más allá de sus intereses personales. Si piensan, no pueden sacar ninguna idea. Un Departamento de Paz no haría el trabajo. Es muy tarde. El gobierno está muerto. Debemos despertar a este hecho. Tenemos que enterrar el “4 de julio” para siempre, en alguna Reunión Arcoiris decisiva, y orar para que el Gran Espíritu guíe las almas de la gente que todavía pueda escuchar.

Desde la reelección de Bush hace poco menos de un año, Estados Unidos ha continuando embrollándose en su guerra en Irak, que Bush defiende a una tasa de mil millones de dólares a la semana. Justo después de la Navidad, un terremoto de 9.0 puntos y un tsunami devastaron partes de Indonesia, Tailandia y Sri Lanka. Estados Unidos fue característicamente lento para responder. Luego vino Katrina; otro desastre, que muchos observadores de todo el mundo atribuyeron al calentamiento global. Casi seis semanas después, Nueva Orleáns es todavía inhabitable en gran medida, y no será habitable por un buen tiempo, si acaso. Al menos 200,000 de sus 470,000 habitantes dicen que nunca regresarán. Al menos medio millón de refugiados están todavía viviendo en hoteles, costándole al gobierno 11 millones de dólares al día.

Pero esos medio millón de refugiados en hoteles son al menos más afortunados que los dos millones de personas sin hogar del último desastre, el terremoto en Pakistán del día 19 de la Luna Eléctrica. Los refugiados pakistaníes, en las partes remotas de la frontera de los Himalayas, están sin comida, agua, abrigo, y ayuda médica, y muy pronto estarán enfrentando un frío invierno. Es casi más que lo que los estadounidenses pueden soportar o comprender. Pero por primera vez desde el 11 de septiembre, desafiando al FBI y a Seguridad Nacional, quienes los acusaron de reunir fondos para los terroristas, los grupos islámicos de caridad en Estados Unidos han estado activamente en campaña para contribuir a sus hermanos y hermanas musulmanes en Pakistán. Los helicópteros son muy necesarios para ayudar a los refugiados y sobrevivientes en las partes remotas, pero no es tan fácil que vayan. (Las bases militares norteamericanas en el adyacente Afganistán, y cerca, en Irak, cuentan con muchos helicópteros, pero no pueden asignar más de 20 para el desastre).

“Es mejor que reconozcamos humildemente que, de alguna manera, el pasado poseyó un conocimiento extremadamente potente. Es demostrable: los textos mayas identifican el 2012 como un año de cambio de época, y el ambiente se está deteriorando en formas tales que sugieren que esta predicción, hecha hace mil años por un hombre (Pacal Votan), quien ni siquiera hizo uso de la rueda, es quizás la idea más potente jamás formulada en toda nuestra historia. Si él está en lo correcto, entonces no es difícil argumentar que su mente fue la mejor mente que jamás haya vivido, al menos durante este ciclo particular.” (“El 2012: ¿Es Cierto?”, Whitley´s Journal, 11 de octubre de 2005)

Cinco Principios para la Era de Acuario

1. Reconoce que la otra persona es tú. (In lak´ech)

2. Hay un camino a través de todo obstáculo.

3. Cuando tengas el tiempo encima de ti, empieza y la presión desaparecerá

4. Comprende por compasión, o entenderás mal los tiempos

5. Vibra el Cosmos. El Cosmos despejará el sendero (Yogi Bhajan, La Mente, p. xiii)

“El líder del mundo,” George W. Bush, está atascado en el fango defendiendo su candidato a la Suprema Corte, la Sra. Meir, una cristiana fundamentalista evangélica, mientras el ex-presidente Bill Clinton aparece en la portada del número actual del Ladies Home Journal promoviendo su gran cruzada: salvar a los niños estadounidenses de la obesidad. Sí, esto es Estados Unidos, la tierra de la mente atrofiada y el cuerpo emocional de un niño de quinto grado. El Presidente es el representante arquetípico de la psique del mundo. Él es el barómetro del estado mental de la gente. Es lo que la gente merece, porque él es su elección. El ex-presidente Clinton y el presidente Bush difícilmente están vibrando el cosmos, y mucho menos, parecería, practicando cualquier forma real de la compasión. Ellos están encarnando un nivel de mediocridad que no tiene ningún paralelo en la historia.

Debido a que es la nación número uno en poder, la más rica de las naciones, y la “policía del mundo”, la mente norteamericana, más que ninguna otra, está en un estado de neurosis desconcertante buscando mantener la identidad del control. Esta es una lucha fundamental del ego. El ego de la identidad personal, el ego de la identidad nacional. Ambos son una caricatura, porque ninguno tiene ninguna realidad verdadera. Son ficciones, y muy dañinas. La creencia en estas ficciones de la identidad personal y nacional perpetúa un sufrimiento innecesario. Desde un punto de vista más iluminado, la cantidad de sufrimiento en este planeta es innecesaria. La guerra, en particular, es completamente inútil e innecesaria.

Lo mejor que le podría pasar a este planeta sería que Estados Unidos perdiera su identidad, que la abandonara, y se convirtiera en un buscador altruista, que compartiera su riqueza, y determinara cómo podría resarcir sus transgresiones. Este proceso podría empezar CONTIGO, que has escuchado el mensaje de un nuevo tiempo y un camino a un futuro genuinamente alternativo. Si ustedes, que han escuchado el mensaje de las Trece Lunas, se despojaran de su identidad como estadounidenses, y se comprometieran a una vida de puro servicio para el futuro de la Tierra, su mente verdaderamente brillaría, y el mérito del Dharma cósmico estaría con ustedes, ¡si pudieran elevarse por encima de su pequeño ego estadounidense! La Era de Acuario, el Sexto Sol, ¡está tan solo a siete años! Como marcha Estados Unidos, así marcha el mundo. Si incluso un pequeño grupo de estadounidenses pudiera mostrar su voluntad de servir al futuro, mediante una sencilla ceremonia de muerte del ego personal y nacional, podría ocurrir que muchos otros, en los lugares de sus países respectivos, estuvieran dispuestos a seguir el ejemplo. Las ceremonias de muerte del ego ayudarían a pavimentar el camino para la llegada de la civilización cósmica, que sólo reconoce a planetas con una inteligencia en evolución, y no a naciones ficticias o líderes nacionales.

“Se ha considerado posible ahora, formar grupos dentro del nuevo grupo de servidores del mundo, cuyos miembros pueden empezar a prepararse para expresar tanto lo fenoménico como lo impulsivo, lo negativo como lo positivo, lo material como lo espiritual, con tal medida de éxito que, a su debido tiempo, pueda haber en la Tierra una réplica de la Jerarquía, con sus métodos y técnicas de trabajo.” (Alice Bailey, Exteriorización de la Jerarquía, p. 34)

Estos son los grupos simiente, mencionados también por Dane Rudhyar, necesarios para tender el puente a la naciente Era de Acuario (2012). Las tres razones para la importancia de los grupos simiente son:

“1. Constituyen el germen de la vida que dará por resultado que la Jerarquía abandone su reclusión a través de las edades y aparezca en fecha posterior en la Tierra, y nuevamente actúe a la luz del día.

2. Son el grupo intermediario que actúa como puente entre la masa negativa del género humano y el agente positivo de la Jerarquía. Por esta razón, en estos grupos el énfasis es puesto sobre el servicio, porque constituye la respuesta a la masa y su necesidad, y el contacto con el alma que incluye la respuesta al mundo de las almas, tal como lo tipifica la Jerarquía oculta.

3. Contienen en sí como grupo las simientes de la civilización venidera y el germen de la nueva cultura. El germen de la vida de la nueva era reside allí, dentro del núcleo de las viejas era y formas. De allí la oportunidad, el servicio y los problemas de estos grupos.” (Alice Bailey, Exteriorización de la Jerarquía, p. 34-5)

La RAP es la semilla de la nueva civilización. La Fundación para la Ley del Tiempo es el germen de la nueva cultura. La RAP es el nuevo grupo de servidores del mundo, supuestamente siguiendo la onda encantada del servicio planetario. La Fundación es el germen de la Jerarquía Planetaria, que NO debe confundirse con la jerarquía de la Era de Piscis, basada en los valores falsos y dominados por lo masculino del poder 12:60, sino la jerarquía en el sentido genuino del orden sagrado de la realidad (el tiempo 13:20 es el orden sagrado). Es debido a lo profano del tiempo 12:60 que la verdadera jerarquía se ha ocultado en la “reclusión a través de las edades.”

La verdadera jerarquía es la percepción de la integridad, u orden sagrado, cuyo centro radial es la Fuente primaria, alrededor de la cual niveles de seres cada vez más evolucionados guían los destinos que abarcan el ser universal. (Hier- = sagrado, -arquía = orden). Cuando tienes una percepción real del cosmos - una perspectiva cosmocéntrica - entonces no tienes ningún problema en entender la jerarquía como orden sagrado. ¿Está un ángel más evolucionado que tú? En lugar de la democracia, en una verdadera jerarquía hay una cosmocracia, el gobierno por la conciencia vigílica cósmica, donde cada quien es igual en sensibilidad telepática y potencialidad espiritual. El gobierno, como tal, no existe más. Es sólo porque existe el gobierno, que surgen las falsas nociones de la jerarquía.

Para resumir cómo pueden estos grupos estar a la altura de los tiempos:

“1. Ocultan y nutren el germen o la simiente de la nueva civilización de la era acuariana.

2. Constituyen el puente entre los antiguos y los nuevos grupos, entre las masas humanas (donde los más destacados se abren camino hacia el nuevo grupo de servidores del mundo) y la Jerarquía planetaria.

3. Serán en el futuro un aspecto de la Jerarquía y de Su trabajo en el plano físico externo. (Alice Bailey, Exteriorización, p. 35)

La Jerarquía Planetaria es la asamblea de seres superiores pentadimensionales (representantes de la Federación Galáctica), supervisando la transición evolutiva del humano actual, del homo sapiens al homo noosphericus. Siempre y cuando la inteligencia evolucione al punto de ser capaz de estar en resonancia con la Jerarquía Planetaria, entonces la Jerarquía precipitará telepáticamente entre aquellos que estén en resonancia la forma y los medios para empezar a establecer una base para las operaciones de una inteligencia evolutiva superior en la Tierra. La gente que está excesivamente apegada a la pura democratización de todos los valores, quizás se resistirá a este énfasis en la jerarquía, pero debemos examinar nuestras mentes y las aversiones y apegos por igual que tenemos respecto a mundos diferentes.

Mientras que los grupos de la RAP en el Reino Unido, Holanda y Bélgica están elevando sus programas de estudio - con Grupos de Estudio de la Historia Cósmica, entre otras cosas - la organización de los Centros para la Restitución de la Mente Natural está despegando como un gran proyecto, unificando a diferentes grupos de la RAP europea. Mientras tanto, en Polonia, un nuevo grupo de la RAP busca anhelantemente materiales para despegar del suelo. En Japón, diferentes equipos de miembros de la RAP imparten seminarios a lo largo de la isla, de una manera regular y bien organizada. En Brasil, recientemente ocurrió una gran reunión de asamblea de la RAP, con más de 100 representantes de los nodos principales de Brasil, creando asambleas, buscando terrenos para las comunidades 13:20, y un Centro para la Restitución de la Mente Natural, así como estableciendo la contraparte brasileña de la Fundación, la Institución para la Difusión de la Ley del Tiempo. Una organización hermana similar está siendo desarrollada en Japón, el Instituto para la Cultura Galáctica. ¿Qué le está sucediendo al nuevo grupo de servidores mundiales de la RAP en Estados Unidos?

Aparte de unos cuantos individuos comprometidos trabajando en pequeños grupos, la condición mental general norteamericana de apatía, inhabilidad de sostener una visión de largo plazo, aislacionismo, competitividad, temor, letargo, y falta de inspiración, está cobrando resultados. Desde el desastre del Katrina, los pedidos de calendarios y literatura 13:20 han descendido a prácticamente cero, y el apoyo financiero público hacia la Fundación parece estar en todo momento bajo. Una indagación acerca del estado de la RAP de Estados Unidos indica niveles adicionales de confusión y una falta total de organización y comunicación sistemáticas. Muchos lugares que una vez fueron activos están ahora aparentemente inactivos, o por lo menos poco organizados, especialmente en Portland y San Francisco.

Sí, Estados Unidos es el vientre de la bestia. La gente todavía tiene la capacidad de ir de compras, elegir algo esta semana, y descartarlo la próxima. “Ah, yo probé eso, el calendario maya,” oyes a la gente decir, “pero simplemente no tuve el tiempo para eso.” El 2012 está ya a siete años, y para mucha gente, eso es irrelevante, o siente que todavía tiene tiempo. ¿Para qué? A pesar de todo lo que está pasando en el mundo, la motivación para cambiar es prácticamente inexistente. En vez de eso, la cultura, como un todo, está siendo “retro”, o sea, está yendo hacia atrás.

¿Qué se necesitará, Estados Unidos, o es ya demasiado tarde? Estás atrapado en una rueda samsárica tan densa, que no puedes ver incluso qué tan atascado estás en la burbuja de una realidad creada por ti. Estados Unidos: la nación gorda, la privilegiada entre las naciones. La hambrienta de armas. Escapista y aislacionista. Todo mundo escondiéndose, agarrados a sus pertenencias. Sin embargo, tanta gente de la calle. Tantos niños en los parques, separados de la realidad social que se les ha presentado, con camisetas que dicen: “Yo como pegamento,” o “La realidad apesta”. Tantos refugiados del desastre. Tantos soldados regresando a casa, heridos y enfermos. Tanta gente en lejanos países, desesperados por incluso una gota de agua…

“Para estar liberados de este tipo de experiencia, sólo hay una cosa: el Dharma. Sin el Dharma, no hay manera de detener la rueda incesante del sufrimiento. Y Dharma significa la acumulación de solamente buen karma, y tener pensamientos amables y caritativos hacia todos los seres.” (Ven. Ngagpa Yeshe Dorje, Tramo Ngondro, p. 20)

En el análisis de la antropología galáctica, Estados Unidos es la peor de entre las naciones de la Tierra, porque la gente no puede pensar por sí misma. La gente ha abdicado del pensamiento en aras de la mercadotecnia, el dólar, y del ciberespacio de complicados sistemas de contestación telefónicos en los que no hay seres humanos para contestar tu llamada. Además, es tan adicta a los programas de la televisión, que su mente sólo conoce clichés. Enfrentada con el desastre, es impotente, y para muchos, el conseguir un arma para auto-defensa es la mejor respuesta que pueden encontrar.

La prognosis es que Estados Unidos, como una psique colectiva o emanación del alma, está muerto. El sueño americano se ha vencido a sí mismo. Entre las ruinas psíquicas hay individuos y unos cuantos grupos que pueden salvarse, que luchan para mantener viva la luz (sin que esto sea un eslogan mercadotécnico). Nos guste o no, este es el tiempo final, el fin de la Era 12:60 de Piscis, y de la inminencia de la era acuariana 13:20: el 2012. Mira el lado brillante. La oportunidad para el heroísmo nunca ha sido mayor.

La RAP fue concebida como un puente para ayudar a despertar a la gente al amanecer de un nuevo tiempo. La RAP nunca ha estado más urgentemente necesitada que ahora. El Camino de las Trece Lunas es el Camino al Nuevo Tiempo. Es el sendero al futuro. Pero no será un futuro estadounidense, ni japonés, brasileño o cualquier otro tipo de futuro nacionalista. Será el futuro galáctico de una civilización cósmica. En Estados Unidos, los miembros de la RAP deben vencer el letargo de su alma y romper los grilletes del materialismo moribundo del ego de su mente. Para crear buen karma, debes esforzarte. Debes hacer algo. Debes seguir realmente ese calendario, para hacer una nueva senda. Debes experimentar la muerte del ego nacional, que hará más fácil la muerte de tu propio ego. Los viejos caminos están ahora desgastados. Y debes tener pensamientos amables y caritativos hacia todos los seres.

“Ahora, esa inteligencia debe convocarse de nuevo para que nos pase al siguiente periodo de calma relativa. Durante este periodo, dejaremos atrás prácticamente todo lo que ahora comprendemos como civilización. La sociedad de consumo será la primera en irse, una víctima de la sobrepoblación y de nuestra falla en afrontar desde hace mucho tiempo la necesidad de encontrar nuevas fuentes de energía. Con ella se irán los Estados Unidos como superpotencia. Estamos ya en las últimas etapas de eso: como el Imperio Británico en 1910, nuestro país está agobiado por las deudas, y está empezando a tratar a sus estados clientes con una brutalidad extraordinaria. Enseguida habrá algún cataclismo, quizás el colapso inesperado del petróleo saudita, o la detonación de bombas atómicas en nuestras ciudades, o una gran plaga - quién sabe qué es lo que será - pero por el otro lado de la moneda, el mundo ya no estará más dominado por una superpotencia.” (“El 2012: ¿Es Cierto?”).

La lección de Estados Unidos es la lección de todos. Lo que está pasando en el mundo va simplemente a incrementarse a medida que nos acerquemos al 2012. A esto se debe el que aboguemos el despertar de tu naturaleza espiritual de manera sincera ahora, empezando con conocer tu propia mente. Luego, la liberación del ego: personal, nacional, o cualquier otra forma. Mientras heces eso, desarrolla la compasión que es genuinamente altruista. Mira realmente a la persona con un letrero en un cartón en el estacionamiento, o en la calle, y piensa: “In lak´ech.” Da lo que puedas cuando puedas. Aprecia lo que tienes, y da gracias al Creador. Da gracias cuando te levantes por la mañana, y cuando te vayas a la cama en la noche. Y esfuérzate en hacer actos de buen karma. En verdad implica un gran esfuerzo ser compasivo, pero una vez que has adquirido el hábito y la actitud, hallarás que el modo de ser altruista y compasivo es el camino de la vida universal.

“… el exacto … estado humano post-apocalíptico que ha sido profetizado, (es) que alcanzaremos la superconciencia, mientras el mundo se colapsa a nuestro alrededor. Resulta que nuestro acercamiento a este estado no está conectado con alguna especie de magia en absoluto, más que el agujero espiritual a través del cual Pacal Votan dijo que él podría hablar, estaba tejido de una magia incomprensible. Justo como la ciencia ordinaria va a realizar la magia de que el ser humano superconsciente sea una realidad, fue ese agujero lo que permitió a los arqueólogos descubrir la tumba de Pacal Votan, y traer su existencia de nuevo a la luz.” (“El 2012: ¿Es Cierto?)

“¿Por qué demorarse ahora? Cuando una casa se está incendiando, el echarte a correr por tus posesiones sólo hace que te cueste la vida. Esta casa que se está incendiando es Babilonia, el modo de vida 12:60, que está ahora destruyendo vuestra biosfera y envenenando toda vuestra vida. No se demoren ahora acariciando vuestras máquinas. Este es el Día del Juicio. Si pueden recordar, abandonen esta casa en llamas y sepan que hay un mejor modo ya preparado para ustedes, una marcha sagrada de la victoria, mis siete años de profecía, el Telektonon, la sagrada revelación del tiempo.”

El Telektonon de Pacal Votan, La Piedra Parlante de la Profecía que Une la Gente del Amanecer con la Gente del Libro, Sección XVI, “El Éxtasis de la Liberación,”. v. 102)

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"No es la vida lo que importa, sino el valor que le pones." Yogi Bhajan

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Este boletín es felizmente presentado como un servicio a TODOS los seres por

Dr. Arcturus, Doctor Sanador Planetario Ph.D. (Valum Votan), Cerrador del Ciclo

¡Klatu Barada Nikto! ¡La Federación Galáctica Viene en Paz!

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have you ever...

bean — Fri, 06 Feb 2004 06:53:36 GMT

have you ever thrown the coins, looked at the lines, and thought "the i ching is crazy, it is so wrong on this one"...

and then did the OPPOSITE of the advice the i ching provided...

only to find out that the i ching was RIGHT?

it's happened to me a couple times, which has helped affirm my belief in the oracle.

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48

Thu, 20 Oct 2005 03:48:33 GMT

anyone know a tad about lining wells?

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question??

aleXa — Thu, 06 Jan 2005 06:07:25 GMT

can some explain to me with normal "human understanding"
what the i-ching of ---54 the marrying maiden--- meanz?????
i'd appreciate it...... :}

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nuclear hexagram question

jmparker — Sat, 17 Sep 2005 21:42:29 GMT

Do you use the Xs and Os when you do your nuclear hexagram, or ignore them?

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7

dianalynnlaw — Tue, 03 Feb 2004 15:10:41 GMT

Three times in the last week, I've gotten 7 when asking about my "path". The meaning seems like more of a group situation. Anybody have thoughts?

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WHY

jmparker — Sat, 17 Sep 2005 21:14:34 GMT

does 'Before Completion' come AFTER 'After Completion?'

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Number Nine

i_rabbit — Wed, 06 Apr 2005 16:50:55 GMT

I have been getting a LOT of hexagram 9 lately. It seems to be one of the hexagrams where different translations vary the most in what themes they emphasize. What does it mean to you...? What was going on in your life for context?

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something I've always wondered

jmparker — Fri, 07 Oct 2005 20:32:12 GMT

If your coin rolls six feet across the floor and hits a wall, chair leg, or bookcase before landing, does it still count?

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Army. question

Randy_W — Mon, 30 May 2005 04:48:15 GMT

I have trouble understanding the meaning of Army. Hexagram seven.
I have noticed some mood similarities between 7 Army and the Tarot card 7, major arcana. Any comments.

Victor .

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Grace /Pi"Kira's post

Randy_W — Sun, 25 Sep 2005 18:14:01 GMT

Kira Wrote:
Re: where is everybody?
we could do a daily reading for our tribe. perhaps we share a common path... for today:

#22 Pi/Grace
inside the strength of simplicity, outside the beauty of acceptance and gentleness. By gradually letting go of the vain bullying energy of the ego and accepting the quiet guidance of the higher power, one acquires the substance that makes ongoing good fortune a possiblity.

sixth line changing- By discarding the use of false power, one gains a view of the path to true power. In quiet acceptance there are a grace and a strength that overcome all else.

bless you all, may you find the strength to uphold the highest principles and bring love and light to all you meet today.
~Kira

_>_>_>_>_>

Does anyone feel as much dislike for the Grace/Pi hexagram, as they do for the Marrying Maiden Hexagram/ 54.
Both of them are very cramped for me and I was wondering if this points to a personality hidden trait that should guide my attention in reading all the I Ching results.
Does not knowing one's personality issues guide in reading the individual hexagrams for greater clarity,.

Victor.

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Hexagram 54

Mr M — Tue, 14 Oct 2003 01:03:07 GMT

In my research on the I Ching, one of the greatest hurdles can come with Hexagram 54 - which holds the imagry of Thunder upon the Lake. the literal Chinese translation and what most English translation use is the ideogram of 'The Marrying Madien,' but then the commentary goes on to contrdict this imgary and presents us with an idea of a female who is considered too powerful or dominering to take as a wife. This Hexagram has caused my great confusion, due to the contridictiary terms implied. I have researched and found the problem to be with the Enlglish translators (most of whoum are based in the Wilhelm school) using the literal translation, which does not accuraturaly convey itself when brought into English.

I have studied the changing lines (which when placed together draw a complete picture)

in trying to find the correct imagery for Hexagram 54, I have concluded that it is im fact impliing 'The Servant' with the tale of a young retainer entering into service...and forgoing their own hopes and dreams (for the moment) so that they may serve another.

I would like to hear others thoughts on Hexagram 54 and how you hve dealt with unearthing this dilema

-M

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Software

wil — Mon, 26 Sep 2005 11:00:47 GMT

Here is a site to a free and quite functinal I Ching program. Tiny little program, it doesn't interpret the lines, you need to use a book with it. But it works and IMO they don't all work. Anyway i like this one a lot and it works very well for me.

Anyone with other software tips?

http://www.geocities.com/kyletimmerman@sbcglobal.net/

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Yarrow stalks in SF/Oakland/Berkeley?

Sun, 24 Jul 2005 07:55:08 GMT

Does anybody know where I can get yarrow stalks in Berkeley or SF (preferably downton/Chinatown)?

Thanks,

F.

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6

jmparker — Wed, 13 Jul 2005 18:59:12 GMT

Hi, I just joined. Four years ago I went to a famous physicist's book signing, where he mentioned he did his I-Ching every morning. I was so impressed that instead of buying his book, I got an I-Ching manual, and have been doing mine about every day since.

Just a question for comments if anybody has any feelings about this:

Today I got #6 - Sung/Conflict. Never had it before.

The book I use reads "When you see conflict coming, drop the issue."

This is not usually my style, and it's not an idea I've come across exactly that directly in readings on Taoism (bending and being flexible as opposed to being stiff and inflexible, yes, but dropping an issue, no).

Anyone ever put this into practice? Good advice all the time, or just in certain situations?

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Possesion in great measure

Devin — Wed, 27 Jul 2005 18:08:41 GMT

what is people's experience with possesion in great measure(I think it's number14? it's fire over heaven)?
For me, and everyone I've known, it has had not only to do with abundance, but specifically with making money. any thoughts?
dev

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I-Ching, the Tzolkin & DNA ... decode you DNA code !

raah-serious — Mon, 28 Feb 2005 09:04:49 GMT

Greetings of Cosmic Light !

Have uploaded image from the 20 Tablets of the Law of Time by Valum Votan & Bolon Ik of a Primal or Early Heaven Arrangement nature in an Inverse seventh binary weave format !

This graphic is a:
Tzolkin matrix with Radial sequence of 64 I-ching codons.

So would also like to bring to awareness the relationship between the I-Ching and DNA ... and their relationship with the Tzolkin, which then through our kin, we become the living DNA of 260 codes of galactic being.

Here the I-Ching is arranged as:
Cubic lattice of (8x8) = 64 arrayed as Inverse seventh binary weave within Matrix of 5 x 13 = 65 : 64 (+ 1) !

Whats the view of the Council on weaving the codes together ?

My kin is Blue Cosmic Eagle, through the graphic I find that my DNA code is I-Ching #25, which is Heaven over Thunder,
or Time over Energy, within the 49th harmonic (7x7) bardo cycle of the 65 total harmonics. 64 (+1)...

Whats your DNA code ? lets get activated ... tribe.net has great potential for unifying our wisdom & knowledge.

Peace

RA

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Image bank

Fri, 07 Jan 2005 14:24:05 GMT

I vote for the image bank being opened!

I have quite a few images that can assist in the contemplation of the Science of Kings, as I suspect have many others here. I would like to share . . .

:-)

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