If your coin rolls six feet across the floor and hits a wall, chair leg, or bookcase before landing, does it still count?
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Re: something I've always wondered
Fri, October 7, 2005 - 3:03 PMi count those. i also use a different method with sixteen beads and occassionally one will 'leap' out while i'm shaking them up. i take that as a 'pick' too before placing it back into the container. -
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methods/Re: something I've always wondered
Sun, October 9, 2005 - 8:26 AM
You say you use a different method of sixteen beads, I am guessing that this is a divination method and is a variation of coming up with the I Ching hexagrams. Is that correct? I use sixteen cards so I extrapolated that may be the case.
Divinationally yours
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Re: methods/Re: something I've always wondered
Sun, October 9, 2005 - 12:30 PMthree coin method:
heads = 2
tails = 3
three coins net either:
2+2+2 = 6 = -x-
2+2+3 = 7 = ---
2+3+3 = 8 = - -
3+3+3 = 9 = -0-
where -x- is a 'old yin' line changing into yang - - > ---
and -o- is a 'young yang' changing into yin --- > - -
in the sixteen bead (or marble) method you need four colors:
7 black = - -
5 white = ---
3 red = -o-
1 blue = -x-
you draw one out and record the line then return it and select another.
the reason for this is that it maintains the mathamatical probabilities of the yarrow stick method whis is based on the 'golden ratio' whereas with coins you have a linear distribution of probabilities. ie, you are just as likely to get a old yin as anything else. in yin/yang energies it is more unlikely that yin (passive/receptive) would change to yang whereas it is yang (active/creative) nature to change.
the sixteen bead method preserves this tendency while being fairly quick relative to yarrow stalks. that is why i use it.
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Re: something I've always wondered
Sat, October 8, 2005 - 2:16 AMI guess we've all wondered about just that. If count them too. Use a computer now though and don't have the problem. -
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Re: something I've always wondered
Mon, October 10, 2005 - 7:53 AMI love how there are different methods with different probabilities, and that all are valid. I'm sure that we are drawn to the one that reflects how we interact with probability. -
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Re: something I've always wondered
Mon, October 10, 2005 - 11:55 AMI looked for the seed method online to tell you about and found a lot more, check this out!
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Re: something I've always wondered
Wed, October 12, 2005 - 9:38 AMDr. Ni's translation of the I Ching (The Book of Changes and the Unchanging Truth) also presents the seed method. -
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Re: something I've always wondered
Thu, October 13, 2005 - 4:23 AMYeah, i first saw the seed method in Hua Ching Ni's most excellent I Ching translation.
Ni's "Book of Changes and the Unchanging Truth" is a big book and not the cheapest, but certainly one of the very best.
I particularly like the way he finds something postive about all the lines. A positive course of action in any event.
Some translations have some lines saying basically "you are so screwed". I don't find that helpful.
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Re: something I've always wondered
Tue, October 18, 2005 - 11:37 PMI would say anything goes so long as you are consistent with your style.